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-annnd….action.
-Hi, welcome to Indie Action Tutorials. My name is— -Hi! Welcome back to Indie Action Tutorials! Right now i’m back in L.A. for jury
duty; or as i call it: crime-fighting. And I thought, “You know, this is a good time to introduce of all you to my brother, Sean.” -Hi.
-My brotha….! So Sean is an actor and all around talented performer. He’s also got a really diverse background in martial arts. And one thing I wanted for my show was diversity. So I’m going to let Sean take over and rap at ya a little bit. …Right. So yes, I do have a diverse background in martial arts. MMA, wushu, kung fu, -Muay Thai—
-You play basketball, right? Take ten. The flavor of a fight is an extension
of the characters in the fight. Too often in indie productions you
see a character pulling off move or fighting style that has no business
whatsoever being there. Let’s take John for example. Pretty stylish right? Well, should
he be doing kung fu? A little crouching tiger hidden dragon? No. He wouldn’t. The style of the moves. The look on an actor’s face, it all has to make sense coming out of the characters in the fight. Let’s try an easy example. Let’s say Sean here is playing a character who is…. robbing a liquor store! Now, as tough as he would look coming at the shop owner with Muay Thai, would it make sense, or would he try something else? Cut. The action you choose has to make sense to the genre, to the scene and to the character. And right now I think Sean has the character nailed. Because he’s a good actor. So let’s talk about genre. What i don’t
want to see are open palm attacks or tiger claws in a
modern day period film. Long, extended parries and combinations
or more of the 90’s Hong Kong kung fu flavor which, as cool as they look, may
or may not be appropriate for your movie. That’s for the genre. For the scene, you want to ask yourself, what is the purpose of this fight? It might
be, say, to establish the innocence of the hero character. Say my character sees Sean walking down the sidewalk. My innocent character, will ofcourse, want to walk to the other side of the street. But oh no! He attacks me anyways! Now, John could either keep beating me down -or he can run away.
-right. And it would be inappropriate for my character to
inappropriate for my characters could to continue beating him down no matter how
cool the fight would look. Never have the action for the sake of looking cool. Always end the fight scene with either developing the plot or
developing the character. So finally there’s the character. Let’s say John is playing the Jackie Chan
type character. Someone you just want to root for because he’ll do anything to
avoid a fight. No, Chris Tucker! I want no trouble! No! No! No! Here you have a choreography decision to make. Should your character have martial skill and, say, deftly block the attack and then counter? Or should your character dodge the attack, then counter? Pay attention to those kinds of issues, because they’re what makes the difference between a stunt coordinator and an action director. So, I hope you learned a lot today. So before you think about how cool your choreography looks— -I learned a lot, man. Get off me. Get off me! That—that did it. That right there did it. –having me, hold the gun, all sideways… –I’m callin’, the N-double…..A-double… A-thing—I don’t care. I’m callin’ them. This is racist, ok? This is racist. –I’m not saying you can’t adlib your lines, but I can’t help but notice that none of your words have actually, well, RHYMED. …I’m not sure if that’s normal?
-What? -Rhyme? You want me to rhyme and be angry? Like an angry Black man? I’m supposed to beatbox, too? You want me to beatbox for you? No problem with being angry. Cuz I am angry right now. So I am a Black man and I am angry right now. -Yeah! Just like that! Just like that! -No. No. John….I’m angry. I’m pissed off.
-That’s perfect! You want me to rhyme. Freestyle about something, that’s–that’s what
you want? –ung fu, wushu, Chinese, my knees, will bash you, will smash you in your racist ass face cuz you make me sick big prick dick, asshole -Ah-wika-wika-wika-wikipedia!
-Cut.
(laughter)

44 thoughts on “Indie Action Movie Tutorials Episode 7: How to Choreograph a Fight Part 1

  1. great episode, and a lot of key points (minus a few hong kong films like Sha Po Long and Flash Point…lets just say Donnie Yen Movies) you hit it on the head with what fighting style a character should have

  2. @darkccolord Its always better you record your audio separate from the camera if you really care about sound, because you can get much better quality.

  3. Done! We've been working on some projects and already have scripts written out for other episodes! We just need to get our schedules matched up more often, haha! In the meantime we've ALMOST completed a short film with him, "Bounty." Check it out on our channel if you can!

  4. I've watched everything thus far, it's all great tools to have and a BIG help when teaching newbies how to not hurt each other. Keep um coming guys! GREAT WORK! Hope we work together some day if you back in LA 🙂

  5. Okay i must say i love these tutorials they are REALLY good!

    But i'm pretty sure you're using a Zoom H4n not a H2n?

    I've used both models myself and the H2n is much smaller and less advanced than the H4n.

    Am i wrong?

  6. Out of curiosity, if you guys were hired to choreograph a Batman movie, what martial arts would you choose for the dark knight?

    In my opinion, since Batman is usually fighting multiple opponents, his fighting style should emphasize staying on his feet, disarms, and a core philosophy of "keep moving, keep hitting" so I would go for a core mix of Boxing, Karate, and Krav Maga.

  7. Hi, Im a student film maker , I am planning to get a zoom h2n, do you think this mic is good enough for vlog , indoor & outdoor film making ? And also , is the "mid-side" function on the mic is good enough to use it like a boom/shotgun when shooting outdoor ? TQ

  8. Hi Joshua. My partner just picked up a h2n and she'll just used it at a fashion show this weekend. I had some experience with it in the past and it seemed pretty useful. It definitely isn't as isolating as a legit shotgun mic, but I think it would be enough in most narrative situations if you plan correctly. If I were in the market now I would get the h2n over the h4n unless you really really need XLR. Hope that helps!

  9. Hey Kersey! I seem to be in the minority with my partners on this, but I actually think the Batman series is one of the few that should take it back to the 90s HK style haha. I honestly think with the right direction it could work. Also, they need to really CG that cape haha

  10. Thanx, Robert! We're actually holding a workshop seminar this coming Nov 9th, 2013 at the Urban Action Showcase. If you or your friends are interested, you can sign up for our workshop directly and it apparently gives you a free pass to the rest of the film festival! And I'm actually back in L.A. for the time being =)

  11. Hey samsote! No, you were correct haha. It's the h4n. My partner recently got an h2n and I may have been confused for a second =)

  12. I guess that could work depending on what kind of tone you're going for in this hypothetical Batman film. I'll rephrase the question: If you guys were hired to choreograph a Batman movie…

    What combat systems would you give Batman if you we're going for a serious tone?

    What martial arts would you have Batman use if it were a more fun tone?

  13. As someone getting into 3D animation I like this video as a very useful primer and I look forward to your other videos!

  14. Lol Rush Hour in reverse, you two pinned that one down pretty well. This was very helpful for a fight scene in a book I've got going.

  15. Thanks. Fight choreography makes a lot of sense. My cousin Jeffrey (Nordling) is a certified fight choreographer, but I didn't really understand until now.

  16. I hope i don't come off as rude, but what happened to the other indie action tutorials? They just vanished for some reason.

  17. where is Indie Action Movie Tutorials Episode 1! Where is it man! wtf I love your videos so much this is my new acc byaway 😉

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